Exclusive Interview: Carl Craig Talks ‘Gamera vs. Viras’ Role, Upcoming ‘Island of Fire’ Appearance

For many, the Gamera films continue to remain cult favorites amongst diehard kaiju fanatics. Although made on a much, much lower budget than their Toho counterparts, the Gamera series has always had heart and soul, intending to be wholesome adventure films that kids can appreciate. In these movies, various child stars would befriend Gamera, then called “The Friend of All Children,” and help our favorite turtle monster save the day. One of these child stars from the Shōwa era, Carl Craig, is a frequent favorite at fan conventions in the United States due to his memorable role as Boy Scout Jim Morgan in 1968’s Gamera vs. Viras, also released internationally as Destroy All Planets. Kaiju United had the incredible opportunity to talk with Carl about his role in Gamera, his later career in the Air Force and Department of Homeland Security, and his upcoming appearance in Kaiju: Island of Fire.

Jacob Lyngle: Hello, KU! I’m here with Carl Craig, who starred in Gamera vs. Viras, aka Destroy All Planets, as a young kid. He’s gone on to become a fan-favorite at various conventions and has a storied career in the Air Force and Law Enforcement after acting. Carl, did you want to go ahead and introduce yourself?

Carl Craig: Sure. I’m Carl Craig. I was a military brat, and then I retired from the military as well. I did my 42 years for the Uncle in two different federal careers. But I was a young kid in Japan because my dad was in the service, and we were living in Japan. My mother was Japanese, so I lived the first 11 years of my life pretty much in Japan, which was a real cool experience. I think all my really close Japanese friends and I… well, we still talk about those days as being some of the funnest days of our lives.

JL: For context, I am 26 years old. Times must have been different back when you were a kid. What was it like to grow up then?

CC: Oh, yeah. You’re a spring chicken. (laughs) My father fought in the Korean War and was wounded, and he got sent to Japan to convalesce, and then he met my mother, and General MacArthur still had the edict that you couldn’t have interracial marriages. So when they dropped that, my dad went back to Japan in 1953 and married my mom and brought her back to the ‘States. I was born in 1956 and shortly after I was born, we came to Japan because my dad got orders in Japan. So I grew up in Japan as a baby up until like Kindergarten, and then we came back to the United States around 1961, and we were in the United States for about three years till like 1964 and we went back to Japan again. We were just going back and forth.

When I was in the states, I was growing up in South Carolina. It was a military base that my dad retired at. My dad liked to move, like, every two years, and we finally got this little bitty house nearby I could climb over the fence to go to my Elementary school back then, which was pretty cool. Shortly after that, my dad got orders to go back to Japan again. So this time, when I got back to Japan, we stayed at Grant Heights, which was a housing installation. It was an Air Force Base, but it was a housing installation. There wasn’t a lot there other than people who lived and worked at all the other bases. Also, there was no US TV. It was all Japanese TV. And being able to speak Japanese, I had a distinct advantage over my other friends who couldn’t speak a lick of Japanese; they just had to watch Ultraman and try to understand what was going on. it was pretty fun, actually.

Carl’s prop ray gun from the film.
He had it signed by Hongo Kojiro and Kenji Yuasa.
Photo courtesy of Carl Craig.

JL: A week before recording this talk, I spoke with Linda Miller, who recounted that Japan was very safe at that time. How was it back then?

CL: It’s been almost 20 years since I’ve been back, but I mean, when I went, there was not a speck of trash on the streets. I mean, if you’re an American or a foreigner, the people are very, very cordial. It’s just an amazing country. It’s hard to describe your experience when you were a little kid, and then when you go back later in life, when you’re like 40 or 50. There were a lot of things here that I never really paid attention to when I was a kid, because you didn’t think to. It’s still amazing place to visit. My mom died last year, and we have plans to go back next year to take some of her ashes back to Japan. We were going to go to Japan in 2020, had tickets and everything, and then COVID hit. We were going to go the Olympics. Oh, that would have been exciting. I was there right after the ‘64 Olympics as a younger kid, and, I mean, it was just something. I was really looking forward to being able to go back and do that too. But, you know, that didn’t happen. So we’re going to go back next spring, at spring break, and take some of my mom’s ashes back. I have two sets of kids and neither of them have been to Japan, but my youngest daughter and my other daughter, they’re 15 and 10, they are going to have a chance to go to Japan next year. My two sons are still kind of fussing about that too, but you know, we’ll see what happens.

JL: How did your kids discover your film role? Was it always just a “Oh, dad was in a movie years ago” type of situation? Did they always know?

CC: Flash forward to about 1987 or 1988. I’m working for the US Customs Service down in Miami, and my boss comes in the office and says, “Hey, can you still speak Japanese?” And I was like, “Yeah,” so he goes, “Well, they got this big Japanese film crew that’s coming in, and they’re going to do this big expose on the big drug problem in America and everything. I need you to make sure they don’t step into a propeller or tail rotor on a helicopter or something. You have to ride herd on them for two weeks while they’re here.”  After that, I’m waiting in the bullpen for the crew to come in, and they come walking through the door, and this one guy looks at me and goes, “Carl Craig-san! This guy’s a movie star!”

He’s telling the other crew members, and they’re all going, like, “What the heck are you talking about?” He goes, “No, this guy was like a movie star back in like the late ‘60s.” and everything else. Anyway, I helped him out for a couple of weeks, and the director/producer said, “Hey, look, I really appreciate all of your help. Is there anything I can do for you?” I replied, “Hey, if you can get me a copy of a movie, I would really appreciate that.” Two weeks later, I got a DHL package in the mail, and it was a VHS tape of Gamera vs. Viras – the Japanese version – and the price tag was about 14,700 yen, or about $150.  I take this VHS tape, and I show my son, who’s like four years old at the time, and my other son, who was just a baby. I put it in there, and my youngest son was looking at it, going, “What am I doing in a movie?” Because when I popped my head over the wall in the very beginning of the movie, my son just about freaked out, because he looked just like me.

That was the first experience of that. Over a period of time, they would get involved with some of the things that I did. But I think the thing that really kicked everything off was when they redid that movie, they somehow or another translated the katakana name of “Karu Kure” to “Kurl Crane” – K, U, R, L, C, R, A, N, E, right? I was so confused.  I can understand because Karu because that could be anything, but it cannot be crane. (laughs) So anyway, in 1999 I get my first cable modem and I’m in San Diego, right? Out of curiosity, I do my first internet search… and look up Gamera. I get this guy’s website, and he has the first five Showa movies from [Noriaki] Yuasa. I see my movie, and it says, “Kurl Crane stars as Jim Morgan,” in the credits. I clicked on the guy’s link and emailed him and was like, “Hey, look, my name’s really Carl. Carl Craig.” He was like, “Yeah, yeah, whatever man. Thanks.”

Carl’s Daiei Scrap Book, filled with pictures that were taken by a studio assigned photographer to follow him around during the filming of ‘Gamera vs. Viras.
Image via Carl’s website.

He was not believing me, so I scanned some pictures from my scrapbook, because Daiei assigned a photographer to document me and everywhere I went, they took pictures of me. I sent them to this guy, and he writes me back like “Holy crap. Where did you get these? I’ve never seen these before.” I said, “Like I said, my name’s Carl Craig. I was Jim Morgan in the movie.” He goes, “Oh my God, we’ve been looking for Kurl Crane for 20 years, and now we know what your real name is! Well, I’m telling you right now, you’re going to get some phone calls.” The next thing I know, I was doing conventions and whatnot because they kind of discovered me.

My kids, they’re a lot older now, so they were like, “Wow, that’s pretty cool.” As a matter of fact, I took my son to a couple of conventions, and they were like, wow, this is crazy, man. These are some weird people. He felt like he had to go around doing the Star Trek symbols or something like that. He’s warmed up, though. He’s made a couple of Gamera models for me that I carry to the shows and stuff. He’s 37 now, so it’s been a while, but he still thinks it’s really cool that I was in that movie. My daughters? They’re like, “Daddy’s in a movie. Big deal.” (laughs)

JL: It’s kind of humbling in a way.

CC: Well, you can’t impress these kids nowadays.

Tôru Takatsuka and Carl Craig in ‘Gamera vs. Viras’ (1968)
Screenshot from Carl’s official website.

JL: Tell me about being cast in Viras. If I recall correctly, AITV wanted an American in the next Gamera film. Is that true?

CC: The way it was explained to me is that Yuasa-san, the director, also wanted an American, and the studio, they kept saying, no, no, no, until they finally agreed to do it. Amazingly enough, Linda Miller was 19 or 18 and she lived across the street for me on the base, I had no idea who she was. She didn’t know who I was, but we had similar experiences. I came home from school one day and my dad said, “You’re going to go audition for a movie part,” and I was like, “What’s an audition?” My dad explained that it’s like a tryout, and that my uncle, my mom’s older Japanese brother, lives next to a Daiei producer. In conversation one night, he said, “We’re having a hell of a time finding an American kid that can speak Japanese well enough to do this part that we’re looking for.” My uncle said, “Well, you need to call my sister. She married an American serviceman. They got a blonde-haired, blue eyed kid that speaks Japanese perfectly.” That’s how I got the audition.

So my dad and I went downtown, and we interviewed. Honestly, t wasn’t really an interview. They just started talking to me. They asked me what I liked, such as, “Do you like baseball? Do you like Kaiju?” among many other things. I’m speaking Japanese to them, and they kind of look at each other, and they pull the contract out in front of me and my dad. So we looked at the contract, and we both signed it that night. So I got signed on for the job.

Daiei’s studio was only, I don’t know, 20 miles away. It took two hours every day to get there in Tokyo traffic, so they would come get me at 430 in the morning, and I had to ride in this car for two hours, and then we get to the set, and we’d shoot for 12 hours. And then at about 6:30, I’d get back in the car and go two hours home to my house, get home at 8:30 and eat something and go to bed by nine to wake up at four o’clock and do it again. And after about two weeks, my teacher contacted my mom and dad, and was upset that I was missing school to film a movie, so I had to get a tutor. Before the tutor, I’d just go to sleep in the car, and they’d wake me up when I’d get to the set. Well, now there’s a tutor in the car teaching me class. So it was like, so I had to stay awake for a couple hours going to school and stay awake for a couple hours coming home. Talk about getting really tired!

JL: Carl, you are one of the few people who can tell me firsthand about the Gamera series’ original director, Noriaki Yuasa. What was he like? Was there much interaction between you and him?

CC: Oh yeah, I had plenty of interaction with him. We revered him. He was a really nice man, but he could get really ticked off. I remember one time I screwed up my lines, and about four or five times, he came over and took his little megaphone that he had and whacked me on the head. He said, “Try harder!” There’s another memory I have where Viras is doing this spinning motion and spits out the shaving cream foam and lands into the water. We got to see some of that. There were a couple of scenes in there where my co-star, Masao (played by Tôru Takatsuka), he and I were just like cracking up. Yuasa noticed, yelled “Cut!” and kicked us off the set because we were making too much noise and acting up too much

I met him later on at G-FEST 10 or something like that. We were both the Guests of Honor at that show, and I got to see him again for the first time in decades. It was a lot of fun. We enjoyed it. We got to eat dinner together, we hung out, and we got to do a panel together. And then, you know, he died the next year. It was kind of sad and unfortunate. But one of the things I remember him telling me when he saw me again for the first time – he saw me, hugged me, and then he held my shoulders and said, “Man, you’re a lot bigger than when I last saw you.” I was like, “Yeah, yeah,” and he goes, “I wanted to thank you.” I was very confused and was like, “Thank me? Thank me for what?”  He just goes “Royalties.” The movie was still making royalties after all of those years.

Cast & Crew of ‘Gamera vs. Viras’
Photo courtesy of Carl’s official website.

That’s the other interesting thing – they they paid me a tidy sum of money back then. But, you know, I was an American, they don’t give royalties to the gaijin. No foreigners get royalties. So that was, you know, one of the drawbacks of the whole scenario. But still, it didn’t matter to me. I put that money in the bank, and when I grew up, I bought a Corvette with it, so it played out pretty well for me/

JL: Did you stay in touch with your co-star, Tôru Takatsuka?

CC: Honestly, no. We kind of hung out a couple times in ’68 and ’69, but he was still in the movies. He was like a Japanese Kurt Russell. He was in television shows, TV dramas, other movies, and stuff like that. Unfortunately, we later heard he fell into some hard times, and we weren’t really sure what was going on. Tim Bean, Linda and I’s manager, thinks we’ve tracked him down. He’s a retired professor in Tokyo, and we’re trying to reach out to him and get in touch with him, to have him come to a convention with us. You know, we’ve been trying for like 18 months now. We haven’t been very successful in this whole process, but we’ve got some people tackling it and trying to do something.

JL: Did you want to continue acting? What led you to not doing movies again, instead opting for the Air Force?

CC: I mean, I was 11 years old. Nothing like that ever happened again. I had no inclination to do any kind of stuff like that. I wanted to be a fighter pilot, and the Air Force gave me a full pilot scholarship anywhere I wanted to go. I ended up going to the University of South Carolina, because that’s where I lived. I had a full 20 year Air Force career as a pilot, and it was great. I got out of the Air Force on active duty about the seven to eight year point after joining, because I had flown the F-4 and then I went to training command as an instructor. And then, I got an F-16 to Misawa. I was going to Japan with my family, the Air Force took my assignment away and gave it to some general’s son who promptly killed himself about six months later. So they sent me to Korea in the F-4 again… I was an eight-year Captain still flying the F-4 which was, you know, career ending for somebody that hasn’t transitioned to the F-16 or the F-15 or the F-10 or something like that at the time. So I made a decision and got out of the Air Force, and explored being an airline pilot. I really didn’t want to be one, it was just the simplest transition. I got hired by American and Delta and all the big guys in 1986 and they offered me $19,000 a year to be an engineer on a 727. I was making like, $45,000 as a captain in the Air Force back then.

Carl Craig standing in front of an F-4.
Image via his official website.

JL: That’s a pay cut. Did you end up finding something else?

CC: Oh, yeah. Thankfully, this guy calls me up, and says, “My name is Roger Willard. I’m a Lieutenant in the Air Force Reserve. I’m a chief pilot for the US Customs Service down in Miami, and I have your form five, which is my flight record, and we’re interested in bringing you in because of your radar interception experience and stuff like that. We have these commercial, you know, little business jets with F-16 radar and infrared and everything, and we chase dope smugglers.” And I was like, “Wow, that sounds interesting!” Once they offered me $65,000 a year, I was in. I did my reserve duty concurrent with my Customs career. In 2000, I retired from the Air Force, and I’ve been out 24 years now. Next year will be 20 years from the US Customs Service, which eventually became DHS [The Department of Homeland Security] and I retired from DHS in 2006, 19 years ago.  

After that, I was Director of Federal Sales for Augusta Westland Helicopter, I was the Vice President of a security company, and then I was Vice President of Cessna Aircraft. Now, that was probably the coolest job I had. The unfortunate thing was, I worked for a drunk. I mean, he was drunk at nine o’clock every morning. I could not figure out how a Fortune 100 company could allow that to happen. And I just got so tired of it, I decided I would, you know, start my own business. And so I did. In 2014 I left Cessna and started my own business, and I was doing great until COVID came along, and I had to basically lay off my entire company and struggled through the last couple of years after COVID, and 22 and I finally retired; completely retired.

Aviation was my entire life, from a Second Lieutenant in 1978 going to pilot training until I retired. And, you know, from Cessna in 2014 onwards, I was building and selling airplanes and helicopters. I was always around burning jet fuel, which was, you know, a really nice career in that respect. That’s kind of what I wanted to do so. That job with Customs, though?  That took me some interesting places, because I worked for the President of the United States from 1989 to 1994. I worked for George H.W. Bush and then I worked for Bill Clinton for a year. When I came back to HQ in 2000, I was on Security Ridge staff, and DHS was created. I was an Associate Director for DHS when it was a new organization – we didn’t have badges or anything. It was crazy. At the end of the day, I honestly didn’t think about how Gamera tied into it all. I guess he flies, too. I could have been an aviator back then in Viras. Maybe I could ride on his back or something. (laughs)

JL: When you became an instructor, what was the most important or crucial rule or guideline you’d teach your students?

CC: As a pilot, there was this old saying, that there are four things that are useless as a pilot. The altitude above you, the runway behind you, the air speed you don’t have, and the gas in the fuel truck. So don’t be low, and don’t run out of runway. And then, you know, with gas in the fuel truck, you got to be very, very careful about making sure you have enough fuel. When you’re out of gas in a car, you can just pull over to the side of the road. Obviously, you cannot do that in an airplane. You can, but not in something like a fighter jet. The engines have to be spinning to power the hydraulic systems to actually have controls. I trained a lot of pilots, man, I tell you. And the best pilot I ever trained was Carly Bishop, who’s a woman, and they wouldn’t let her fly fighters. Back in those days, she could fly circles around everybody in my class. I failed a lot of guys. I had packed guys up and sent them out of pilot training, kicked them out, sent them somewhere else because they couldn’t be pilots. A 33% failure rate in the Air Force pilot training program overall. I thought, yeah, one out of three don’t make it, and that’s basically over the years. So yeah, it’s pretty tough. You gotta make the cut and not do stupid stuff.

A photo of Gamera taken behind the scenes.
Photo courtesy of Carl’s official website.

JL: On your website, you have stated that the biggest highlight of your law enforcement career was aiding in the capture of the Beltway Snipers, aka the DC Snipers. How did you help catch those two?

CC: It was like a Thursday, and we got called on a mission, because somebody got shot. It was just a guy in Maryland doing yard work and he got shot. We were like, “What’s going on with that?” We were looking into it, and it turns out, he was shot by a high-powered rifle. We didn’t know if this was just some freak scenario or whatever.  At the time, I was looking for a new place to live. I was up in the Falls Church area, and I wanted to get a little closer to Fredericksburg, where my sons were. I was in this gas station in Manassas on a Tuesday night, and on Wednesday night, a guy got shot in that gas station. And then two days later, they shot a woman at the mall where my son worked. They started piecing all of this together, putting the clues together, and figuring out that this was a serial killer.

I had a strike team of three helicopters that work three eight hour shifts, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. We were launching anytime anything happened. And the scary part to me was we had this brand new deputy. He was a Coast Guard guy, boat driver, and, you know, I went in there and said, “I want to, do this”. And he goes, “Why would we do that?” After that, I said, “We’re the largest law enforcement Air Force in the world, and this is what we do. You just don’t worry about it. I’ll take care of everything.” So I put the team together. We had ATF and Strike Force guys riding in the back, and we launched on every every case that came around. The Intel started coming in. I actually have a briefing that talks about the entire scenario, about these two guys and what they did, how it started, and where it went. I would do these public talks with like the Daughters of the American Revolution and, low law enforcement, military, and the works. I would go do this presentation on these guys. I still have it. It’s incredible when you find out how long these guys were doing this stuff, how it started, and where it went.

So it turns out this guy was shooting out of the back of a big Chevy Caprice, and he knocked the lock bolt out so he could shoot out of the trunk. And we found out what color it was, that it had Jersey plates on it, and the whole nine yards. We got the call one night from a truck driver who had pulled into a rest stop in Frederick, Maryland, and they were parked in the rest stop. They were sleeping, and he jumped out of his cab, ran down the street and called 911, and we came swooping in and got him. John Muhammad was executed in 18 months. That’s the fastest anybody’s been convicted and executed in Virginia history. It’s crazy. His accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo, he’s eligible for parole this year. He had conjugal visits and now has a five year old son. I guess he got to live, and he pulled the trigger on five people.

JL: When your team apprehended the perpetrators, were you physically there?

CC: Oh, no, I was at home. I mean, it was at night, and the guys launched, and they texted me, and they pinged me that they were launching on this thing. And then, of course, I saw the news. I was like, oh, they got ‘em. Man, I can’t tell you how many cops were there. My buddy was taking a bunch of pictures. Everybody back then had a flip phone, so we had a bunch of photographs on that. Blackberries were brand new. That whole night was a big deal.

JL: Let’s get back into monsters before we wrap things up. You’re set to return to acting in the upcoming film, Kaiju: Island of Fire. Can you tell us about your involvement in the film?

CC: Yeah, Linda and I are going to have a cameo or spot in the movie, I think it might be 20 seconds or something like that. She’s going to be some Navy Admiral and I’m going to be some Air Force General or something like that. It should be fun! We’re looking forward to it, as we’ve been waiting to start filming. It was going to film last year and now they’re saying it’s going to be this year, so we’re just standing by. We’re looking forward having one more thing to put on our IMBD page. (laughs)

Teaser poster for ‘Kaiju: Island of Fire.’
 ©3North Star Pictures JP

JL: What made you decide to come back?

CC: I’m not exactly sure what we’re going to get out of the whole deal, but it’s just one more thing, like another feather in your hat, where you can have something else to talk about at conventions and stuff like that. And another chance to do a project like this? Neither of us, like I said, tried to become movie stars. It just happened, and for this to just kind of fall into our laps again, it just fits the whole storyline.

JL: Looking back, how has your appearance in Gamera impacted your life? What’s it like knowing you have generations of fans that appreciate something you did all that time ago?

CC: You know, like I said, if it wasn’t for me doing that search on Gamera to get my name squared away, nobody would have ever found me again. I was really taken aback. I was surprised that people cared that much, and they were so much into it. The first convention I went to was Asian Film Fantasy Festival in New Jersey in 2000 and I came walking into the lobby of the hotel to check in. I had my Ray Bans on. I had like a T shirt, cut off, jeans and flip flops. I came walking into the lobby, and all of these people came rushing up to me to talk to me and everything. I was like, “Wow, I had no idea.” Every convention I went to after that, I’d have some people come up and sit down and talk to me about how they were somewhere watching this movie for the very first time when they were a kid, and they were just so fascinated with it and taken by it, and it was their favorite movie and everything growing up. I was like, “Oh, okay, that’s pretty cool. I’m glad I could do that for you.”

JL: Tell us some on set stories from Gamera vs. Viras you’ve shared with the fans over the years.

CC: The Retro Media commentary track I did where I tell you everything that’s going on – for most of filming, it was February, and there was no heat in the set. If you watch the movie, there’s condensation on our breath because it was so cold. It was 45 degrees in there when we were making the movie. It was so ridiculous when I ate the sandwich that comes out because our characters were hungry and the mental telepathy brings the food out. I took a bite out of that sandwich, and I spit it out later. If you pay attention the movie, I never swallow. I’ve got this big lump in my mouth because it was the grossest thing I’ve ever stuck in my mouth; I couldn’t believe that I had to eat that. And then, the glass we drank out of was like a blown glass cup. It wasn’t straight. So when you tried to drink, you’d miss your mouth and everything. So that was really weird, those kinds of things in the movie that you don’t even think about.

I have a scar on my right ring finger here, from where I was doing the submarine scenes. I was walking around the estuary, and I threw a piece of glass in the water, it cut my finger, and I was bleeding like a stunt pig. I had to go to the emergency room; Yuasa was not happy with me. They put a Band-Aid on me, and if you watch the movie, I have it on in one scene, and it’s not on in the next scene. Another fun moment: I forgot my American neckerchief slide – the silver one with the eagle and the Boy Scout insignia – I had to borrow a copper Japanese one after forgetting to bring that American one. So, if you pay attention, I switch from silver to copper. There’s a lot of things in that movie that you don’t see the first time you watch it. When I came out with that commentary track, people who had listened to it would come up to me and talk to me at conventions like, “Man, if you had never said anything about it, I would have never noticed.”

Tôru Takatsuka and Carl Craig inside the mini submarine.
Photo courtesy Carl’s official website.

I mean, it was a man in a rubber suit movie with piano wire everywhere. I have never seen so much piano wire in my entire life. Everything was suspended by piano wire. When we took those publicity shots with Viras, with his tentacles wrapped around us, God, those things hurt like crazy. It was painted on and had all this texture. It scratched my neck. They had to take the tentacle and wrap it around. That’s as simple as it gets, you know. I mean, a guy in a rubber suit, piano wire, none of the CGI stuff at all. With that new stuff, I’m impressed. You just go, holy mackerel, that’s just so cool. It’s amazing what they can do with movie effects now. But this was real stuff back in those days.

JL: How do we keep up with what appearances you’re making and what you’re up to? Do we just visit your website?

CC: Yeah, the website is good. I have a Facebook page too, so you can hit me up on the Facebook page. Linda Miller and I, we haven’t done it in over a year, but we used to do a Zoom call, where we would put out a link and we’d have 10-20 people show up on the Zoom call, and I would bring out props I still have from the movie. We’d bring those and show those off. As a matter of fact, when people come to cons, I let them hold the props and take pictures with me. So, little bit of behind the scenes info… they bought like, 20 of these, right? And they painted them brown, and they put an Asahi beer can on the end. If you watch the scene where all the guys are in there taking care of Viras when he’s in the crate cage, they have all these ray guns, we each got one each to play with. At the time, my dad said, “You ought to put that away, because it might mean something to somebody someday.” He was right. So, when I travel, I worry that it will get broken or my luggage gets lost, because it’s in there. I don’t dare try and take it on an airplane, which is strange, because I carried a gun for 20 years on an airplane. I can’t carry a plastic gun on the airplanes now.

Carl with a Gamera cosplayer at a past screening.
Image via Carl’s official website.

JL: Lastly, what are you up to in your retirement outside of convention appearances, Carl? Are you golfing? Taking it easy?

CC: I do some golfing, yeah. I shot my age the other day. I’ve been working on shooting my age for a while now. I broke 70 when I was 13. I thought I wanted to be a pro golfer, but I knew I’d starve to death. That’s why I decided to be a pilot instead. I play golf like twice a week. I’m also basically the Uber for my daughters to go around. My 15 year-old just lettered in high school as a Freshman, which is cool, because I didn’t letter until I was a Junior. My older daughter is playing soccer, she swims, and she plays volleyball. I mean, they’re doing everything, and all I am is Uber driver. (laughs) Now I just drive them everywhere they need to go and bring them home. It’s great, because I don’t do a whole lot else, but yeah, I play golf, that’s kind of like what I do for myself. That’s about it right now.

JL: Thank you for hopping on with Kaiju United to tell us about your role in Gamera and beyond.

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  • Jacob is a moderator, film analyst, and devoted kaiju enthusiast. His moderator work can be seen in various panels for conventions, such as FanX Salt Lake Comic Convention, All Monsters Attack Convention, and G-FEST. He currently serves as Editor-in-Chief of Kaiju United, facilitating our major interviews and collaborating with brands & studios for extensive kaiju coverage.

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